maybe sanjay get used to be at motorola. there are plenty around. steve ballmer is wonderful but execution has been less than stellar with a six-point to billion dollar writeoff thank goodness they did not do the yahoo deal and accolades to jerry gain for resisting that. >>. cheryl: ron johnson is available what do you say? >> to have an executive with experience in technology to see a little bit around corners not anybody right in the wing to make a great internal candidate but there should be a lot out there are. cheryl: let's talk about what you disagree about. one of the problems is the decline of pcs sales attributable to the tavern sales that are picking up. do you think those will be another issue with earnings from microsoft? >> gradually it will be an emerging issue but it speaks to the need for microsoft ago when a to present into a mobile platform. you cannot go skinny they have been dipping their toes. they have to go big to buy blackberry or shareholder both are competing for the third space in the united states will behind samsung and